Austenitizing, Cryo, Edge Retention, Edge Stability, Hardness, Heat Treating and Processing, Tempering, Toughness

What is the Best Hardness for MagnaCut Knives?

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[3] https://knifesteelnerds.com/2021/03/25/cpm-magnacut/

[4] Sharpening Supplies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnPLi7GuqsE

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9 thoughts on “What is the Best Hardness for MagnaCut Knives?”

  1. What do you think of Diamond Blade Knives,made by stir forging the edge of the knife? They have tests proving the superior characteristics of their product and I would appreciate your honest thoughts and opinion. Thank you, Pat

      1. Thank you Larrin for the well researched ,comparative and honest answer to my question about the Diamond Blade product. I am actually thinking of trying one of Montana knife co./Josh Smith knives. I remember when he was just a kid. LOL

  2. Hi I am not sure you wanted this posted here but i though you might be interested. I was doing a quick look to see what the community is saying about magnacut and came across this.

    “With reduced Chromium, it is not stainless steel, but the perfect balance of Chromium and Carbon in its composition gives it great wear resistance and toughness.”
    https://knifebasics.com/detailed-cpm-magnacut-steel-review/

    This guy has done a positive review of magnacut but as you predicted in another article he is calling it a non stainless because it has less than 11% Chromium. He does note in the article that it has excellent corrosion resistance which should be the true measure of what is and isn’t stainless rather than an arbitrary Chromium number. It shows that there is still work to be done on the understanding of what is stainless steel.

    1. Oh well. The “definition” of stainless steel has long needed improvement but I’m not sure that is even possible at this point.

      1. Pretty poor definition when it doesn’t actually account for matrix chrome content instead of carbides. D3 isn’t stainless because it stuffs a ton of carbon to take chrome out of solution for more carbides.

  3. At 25:12 what is the name of that sharpener? Thank you for your incredible work on blade steel development

  4. I had a Dulo knife made for me in Magnacut at 63 hrc and have noticed that when I sharpen it, I will sometimes get a wire edge that will break off the apex of the edge which forces me to have to resharpen it yet again. It takes me much longer to get a usable edge when the apex keeps breaking off due to the wire edge problem. Any thoughts on why this would be? I have sharpened well over 50 knives with my KME and do not have this problem with any other knife.

    Thanks.

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