Edge Retention, Heat Treating and Processing, History - Articles - Books, Toughness

Testing Chinese Knife Steel 8Cr13MoV/8Cr14MoV

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Thank you to my Patreon supporters who help make these studies happen. Patreon funds were used for purchasing two ultimately useless knives, and some steel. Patreon supporter Marcus Ho even sent me some steel all the way from China which also ended up not working out. And I used Patreon funds to pay Shawn Houston (also a Patreon supporter) to do microscopy and grind two CATRA knives for me. So when I say that Patreon makes the study happen I don’t mean in an abstract sense. If you want to help fund more knife steel research please come join us on Patreon where you can get articles and videos early. Or if you sign up for the highest tier you can even get a sweet Knife Steel Nerds mug. read more

Damascus, Edge Retention, Toughness

Does Damascus Outperform Super Steels? Testing Different Combinations

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Austenitizing, Cryo, Edge Retention, Edge Stability, Hardness, Heat Treating and Processing, Tempering, Toughness

What is the Best Hardness for MagnaCut Knives?

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Corrosion Resistance, Edge Retention, Steel and Knife Properties, Toughness

Knife Steels Rated by a Metallurgist – Toughness, Edge Retention, and Corrosion Resistance

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Edge Retention, History - Articles - Books, Super Steels

CPM-15V and the Lost CPM-20V – How Much Vanadium Can you Add?

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History of CPM-15V

CPM-15V is essentially a higher vanadium extension of CPM-10V developed by Crucible steel in the late 1970s. I wrote about the history of CPM-10V in this article so I won’t copy-paste all of that here. Prior to powder metallurgy technology it was known that adding higher vanadium would lead to greater wear resistance due to the very high hardness of vanadium carbide. However, once the vanadium content exceeded 4-5% the carbides would be large enough that the steel would fail in forging, and toughness would also be reduced. So the highest wear resistance steel for many years was T15 high speed steel with ~5% vanadium. With CPM-10V they saw what the limit was for vanadium additions and found that once they reached about 11% vanadium the carbide size would be increased because the vanadium carbides would form in the liquid steel before the steel could be gas atomized into powder. Read about the powder metallurgy process in this article. The more vanadium that is added the higher the temperature where the vanadium carbides form. When the formation temperature is higher than the temperature of the liquid steel then they form prior to atomization giving the large carbides in the 11% vanadium PM steel below (labeled CPM 11V): read more

Edge Retention, Super Steels

Edge Retention Testing of Seven More Steels – XHP, SPY27, Maxamet, Rex 45, 420, T15, Rex 76

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Update 1/5/2024: I neglected to mention in the original writeup of this article that the Z-Max was retested along with the new Maxamet and Rex 121 tests. The total cardstock cut was updated from 909 in the original testing to 948 mm. read more

Edge Retention, History - Articles - Books, Super Steels, Toughness

Vanadis 8 – Better than CPM-10V

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History of Vanadis 8

The history of Vanadis 8 goes back a lot further than just the steel itself, really we have to know the history of 10V to know all of the background that is relevant. You can read about CPM-10V in this article. CPM-10V is important because Vanadis 8 is intended as a replacement for CPM-10V, or at least for similar applications. CPM-10V was developed by Crucible in the late 70s, as the first powder metallurgy steel to utilize a microstructure made up of only vanadium carbide, as opposed to chromium and molybdenum/tungsten carbides. This gave 10V a combination of good toughness along with very high wear resistance from the ~10% vanadium and therefore ~17% vanadium carbide. read more

Corrosion Resistance, Edge Retention, Steel and Knife Properties, Super Steels, Toughness

CPM-S110V Steel – History and Properties

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