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CPM-S110V Steel – History and Properties
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M398 Steel Testing – Edge Retention, Toughness, and More
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The steel ratings table from my new book Knife Engineering has now been added as a Patreon-exclusive with M398 added to the table.
What is the Future of Stainless Knife Steel Design?
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I completed a minor revision to my new book Knife Engineering to correct a few typos. Some readers outside the USA also asked for more conversions from Fahrenheit than were present originally, so I incorporated both Celsius and Fahrenheit everywhere in the book in the text and tables, though some images and charts still have only one temperature scale or the other. I wouldn’t say that the changes in the revision are big enough to buy a new one if you have it already, this is not a new edition, but if you haven’t purchased one yet this is as good a time as any.
CPM-S60V – The Forgotten Super Steel
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CPM 10V Steel – History, Properties, and How to Heat Treat
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M390 Steel – History and Properties (and 20CV and 204P)
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History of M390 Development
S30V Steel – History and Properties
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M390 vs 20CV vs 204P – 3rd Generation Powder Metallurgy Technology?
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Edge retention testing is continuing, we have now tested 18 different steels, and four of those steels with multiple heat treatments. Come to Patreon if you want updates on testing as it is completed.
CPM SPY27 Experiments – Toughness, Corrosion Resistance, and More
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I have a new CATRA edge retention testing machine. I will be posting results as they come in to Patreon and articles summarizing the tests will come later to this website. If you want to see tests as they are completed come join us on Patreon.
Friction Forged Knives – Diamondblade Friction Stir Processing
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Friction Forged Knives
The company DiamondBlade Knives produces knives with friction stir processed (FSP) edges [1]. Diamondblade Knives is a sub-company of Knives of Alaska. They use conventional D2 tool steel and process the edge so that it has hardness of around 65-69 Rc and a spine at 38-42 Rc. The knives are advertised as having a finer grain structure than powder metallurgy stainless steel and superior edge retention, toughness, and sharpness than knives tested in 12 other blade steels including S90V. And that the friction forged edge is stainless unlike conventionally processed D2. So I am going to detail the process used to produce the knives and what the properties of the steel likely are.
Hello i kinda stumbled across your site looking for. Spyderco zdp189 metal information as I’m looking to swap to a custom set of replacement blades for my titanium scaled Byrd 8cr. 3pcs set.
A simple blade swap would be nice but, they don’t have any replacement options so started to look at making a set my self from Vg10 or S35v but have no idea if need pre heat treated steels or to cut grind the blades first then heat treat…? I’m a small hobbies guy and have had to get creative with this project, because I’m stubborn, there isn’t getting parts like most spyderco knives which annoyed me greatly so i now made it harder by trying to make custom blades and parts to retrofit.
I’m completely new to this and was just trying to make a small upgraded twist but i got dragged down a rabbit hole trying to get help. And i spoke to spyderco an they dont have plans to update the steels in the byrd line.
When you buy steel it is annealed soft for working. You have to cut and drill the blade before heat treating, though some people partially grind the bevels before heat treatment as well.
I’ve looked through your website and to say the least I’ve learned a lot about steel that I didn’t know and otherwise likely wouldn’t!
Out of curiosity what steel would you recommend that has high wear resistance and good if not really good tuffness?
Depends on how much wear resistance you need. In my recent article on Vanadis 8 I was impressed by how much of a toughness improvement it had over CPM-10V.
hi
im curious about relation between hrc and rex-121
if hrc of rex-121is below 70 edge retension will be significantly lower than over 70 hrc?
Hi I’ve been doing a lot of browsing around popular sites that sell custom knives, and comparing them to my own knives that I’ve made with a variety of high grade high carbon stainless steels, and high speed steels. Many companies claim to use the most high quality high carbon steels rather than stainless steels, and according to your knife steel ratings, there are numerous stainless steels that have a higher balance of hardness and toughness as well as corrosion resistance. If these knives they sell are home forged, I have a feeling they would be made with a carbon steel that is more forgiving when it comes to heat treatment which don’t compare to most super steels.
I read your article on vg10 and super gold steel which are very common in Japanese knives; but looking at some other high alloy stainless steels such as s35vn and s45vn, they are said to be even better. However I don’t find many people that make knives with s35vn other than fold knives. Do very many people understand the difference in quality when it comes to metallurgy?
There are a lot of factors that go into steel choice including availability. It is relatively difficult to obtain VG10 and Super Gold in the USA but easy in Japan. I’ve never tried to buy CPM steels in Japan but I imagine buying the domestic steels is easier and potentially cheaper.